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March 23, 2015 at 4:34 pm #11750
Lindy Walton
ParticipantHi Cindi.
I would appreciate any insight you could give to explain the difference between the dot locator for “mention” and the dot locator for “use”.
Thank you.March 23, 2015 at 5:10 pm #22683dworthing
ParticipantThis is a very hard concept for me to grasp…but I’ll try!
The dot locator for mention is used whenever symbols are listed (on the Special Symbols page, in a TN, in a list that is in print).
The dot locator for use is used whenever a symbol (such as a free standing colon) might get “lost”. The dot locator is to help the reader know which positions within the cells have dots in them (that it’s a colon and not hyphen). Sometimes, a grade 1 indicator is used to designate punctuation standing alone (see the free standing question mark on page 51 of the UEB codebook). Also, you cannot have an indicator on a line by itself without using the Dot locator for use. See the examples on page 30 of the UEB codebook).
One of the dot locators is used only with symbols lists…the other is for when a symbol is actually being used for some purpose – not just being explained.
I hope that helps. If not, let me know and I will ask for more information from other sources.
Cindi
March 24, 2015 at 8:53 am #22684Lindy Walton
ParticipantOK. So in sets of sentences where a student is learning a certain groupsign, “ch” for example, and the heading for the page is simply “ch” would you use the dot locator for use?
March 30, 2015 at 10:12 pm #22685Lindy Walton
ParticipantHi Lindy. Cindi is away for a few days. Would you mind waiting for her to return to get your answer?
April 8, 2015 at 10:15 pm #22686claurent
ParticipantAre you referencing a book that is teaching braille (the actual braille sign for ch) or are you referencing a book that is teaching grammar? In a grammar book, I would use the uncontracted letters ch as the heading. No grade 1 indicator required and no dot locator required. If this is a braille lesson and the braille sign for ch is being taught, I would do the ch uncontracted and then follow it with the contraction to demonstrate the concept.
Cindi
April 9, 2015 at 9:03 am #22687claurent
ParticipantThis is a book that is teaching braille — the student is learning the actual braille sign for ch (dots 16). The heading for the page is simply (dots 16) which of course will read as “child” in this contracted environment. Another page heading is “his was were” which can be misread as “have just go” or perhaps as punctuation (although the Grade 1 indicator would be needed there, and 2356 now has no Grade 1 meaning) … so I thought dot locators would be needed there as well. I think I’ll go with dot locators for “use”. Thanks for the conversation.
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